View Full Version : An ideia for pvp balance
in a thread lost somewhere here in forum antonius has said that he cant change someclasses that are nerfed cuz it will unbalance the olympiads. i thought a little and come to me an ideia. for not mess up with olympiads it cant be anything like status upgrade, so why not a debuff/ buff just like malaria or cholera? it would have and npc in each city. for example i am a dark avanger. i went to npc talk with him and he buffs me with a buff made just for dark avangers. it would give the enought power to make some classes enjoyable to play. of course its a buff slot but imajine if it its like the buff shied (which i think everybody buffs) plus the extrapower. so in the end u are being pump without losing even a buff slot, and whats better on the time that c5 comes here this could be a debuff (who has and special bar) and wont even be a problem for the buffs letting the game more interisting for all the classes. what u ppl think bout it? :D
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num topico perdido aki em algum lugar no forum antonius falou q ele n poderia mudar as classes nerfadas pq faria elas ficar desbalanceadas nas olimpiadas. eu pensei um poko e tive uma ideia. para n bagunçar com as olympiadas nao pode ser algo q aumente os status, entaum pq nao ser um debuff / buff como a colera e a malaria? haveria npcs em cada cidade. por exemplo eu so um dark avanger. o npc me daria um buff q me deixaria com poder o bastante para deixar a class boa de c jogar. claro q ocupa um slot de buff mas imajine q ele funcionaria como um shield (um buff q axo todos usam) mais o upgrade do char. entaum no final sua classe melhora sem nem ao menos vc perder 1 espaço de buff, e oq ew melhor q quando chegar c5 aki isso pode virar um debuff (q tem uma barra especial) e ae nem haveria problema com os espaço dos buffs, deixando o jogo mais interessante para todas as classes. oq vcs axam disso? ;D
CaoNiMa
05-16-2007, 10:40 AM
As much thought a you put into this.....No. (OMG dictatorship detected!)
Every class has a strength or weakness to others thats how the game was designed, unfortunately L2 will always be unbalanced no matter what it's been this way for 3 years and for those 3 years they have tried numerous ways to change the classes so it was more "balanced".
Certain under-dog classes can defeat others but it takes a keen player and one that can actually play the class and have an understanding of the game itself.
In other words you can play and be strong with any class, you just have to know how to play it properly to be efficient in PVP, doesn't take a special buff to do this.
Morbido
05-16-2007, 01:25 PM
As much thought a you put into this.....No. (OMG dictatorship detected!)
Every class has a strength or weakness to others thats how the game was designed, unfortunately L2 will always be unbalanced no matter what it's been this way for 3 years and for those 3 years they have tried numerous ways to change the classes so it was more "balanced".
Certain under-dog classes can defeat others but it takes a keen player and one that can actually play the class and have an understanding of the game itself.
In other words you can play and be strong with any class, you just have to know how to play it properly to be efficient in PVP, doesn't take a special buff to do this.
I agree ^^
And i think that every class has a function in L2... u can't pretend to pwn good with a bladedancer O.o... if u hav one, u know that ur "mission" is to dance, or tank enemies... if u want to pwn, create a mystic character ^^
gyuszeetwo
05-16-2007, 02:53 PM
Hi
I say no too;) My main class is Hell knight and with simply warrior aio buff (u know nothing spec ;) just the everywherecanbuy aio ;) ) Hell knight is good in 1 on 1 pvp ;) well sometimes i lose sometimes i win ;) (shield stun ;) ) so simply if u know how to use that class it is easy ;) and if u need hot springs curses ;) go there and u get it :P
But one thing i can say that play with a close ranged warrior class is hard ;) but not impossible ;) easier to hit someone from a distance thats true ;) but more funny to see them die close ;) :P:P
well see u in game ;)
War
well the da thing was an example, i was just trying to make classes like bd sws artesian spoiler to have some chance in a pvp ;X but if u all dont like forget it T.T, but its annoying to see only necros, archers and daggers running around (yes they are almost half the classes possibles on l2 but it would not be cool if all the classes could be usefull? :D)
Dangerboy
05-16-2007, 06:20 PM
As much thought a you put into this.....No. (OMG dictatorship detected!)
Every class has a strength or weakness to others thats how the game was designed, unfortunately L2 will always be unbalanced no matter what it's been this way for 3 years and for those 3 years they have tried numerous ways to change the classes so it was more "balanced".
Certain under-dog classes can defeat others but it takes a keen player and one that can actually play the class and have an understanding of the game itself.
In other words you can play and be strong with any class, you just have to know how to play it properly to be efficient in PVP, doesn't take a special buff to do this.
Great response,
Yes Lineage has a tendency to be unballanced when it comes to characters. So some do better in certain pvp circumstances over others. They let this continue for awhile then nerf the characters that have dominance over others.
For instance when lineage2 retail first came out the Archer class ruled over every class so they nerfed them enough that gave the magic classes the edge. They had to improve almost everyclass a little but it never seems to balance out enough to make the players equal. They even adjusted the pvp system so that PVP would become more prominent over leveling and expanded to suit that. One thing they did that really made it unbalanced was the numerous spells that it takes for some classes to become effective in the PVE/PVP portion. So hence buffers being totally vulnerable to attack.
JusticeWolf
06-21-2007, 02:41 PM
yep ive seen this where i been bishops had skils they can only use like cancel and strong casting speed than normal . Bd had dances only for himself for faster speed faster atack speed and crit rate and sws had stun dances silence dance and something for patack u know what happend ... i tell u Nobody played other classes there only bd sws and bishops coz they were cool so if u want to bring forword other classes u will justt drag others back leave them the way they are as dez said it will always will be unblalanced. And u got to think about it this classes were made for oficial not 2hbuffz so yeah in a oficial party without a bd and a sws at a raid ur nothing.
earenz
06-21-2007, 03:06 PM
well the da thing was an example, i was just trying to make classes like bd sws artesian spoiler to have some chance in a pvp ;X but if u all dont like forget it T.T, but its annoying to see only necros, archers and daggers running around (yes they are almost half the classes possibles on l2 but it would not be cool if all the classes could be usefull? :D)
Dude, spoiler, warsmith, BD, SWS and other classes arent the best pvp classes and thats how it is made, spoiler and warmisth are money makers, BD/SWS are support, PP/SE/EE/Bish are healers/buffers and this is how this game works, if spoiler or warmisth would good class for pvp everyone would play it becouse its also money factory and it would destroy the whole game... dont try to make a DD from a supports/buffers and other bcuz its kinda creepy, it would destroy the whole point of the game.
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