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Endrance
08-23-2007, 07:47 AM
pessoal
tenho 1 sugestao a fazer, com o C5, todas as skill modificadas e acrescentadas pelos GMs como nerfs, empower de chars sejam eleminados e seja tudo como devia ser( enchant skill voltariam a ser books caso a skill encantada fosse 1 empower acrescentado pelo GM)
resumindo e concluindo nerfs e empowers dados pelo GM seriam eliminados exemplo de empower "zealot PvP/PvE" de destroyer, em relaçao a mark of god, n digo nada ela é 100% nerf de necromancer e de archer mas dar reset na marke foda
deixem suas opinioes ae :)

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staff
I have 1 sugestion to make, with the C5, all skill modified and added by the GMs as nerfs, to empower of chars is eliminated and either everything as it had to be (enchant skill would come back to be books case skill magic was 1 empower added by GM)
summarizing and concluding nerfs and empowers given by GM they would be eliminated example of empower “zealot PvP/PvE” of destroyer, in relacion to mark of god, I say nothing it is 100% nerf of necromancer and archer but giving reset in marke is fuck
leave ur opinoes :)

PS: it was translatet in google too lazy to translate on my own :D

Veritas
08-23-2007, 08:32 AM
pessoal
tenho 1 sugestao a fazer, com o C5, todas as skill modificadas e acrescentadas pelos GMs como nerfs, empower de chars sejam eleminados e seja tudo como devia ser( enchant skill voltariam a ser books caso a skill encantada fosse 1 empower acrescentado pelo GM)
resumindo e concluindo nerfs e empowers dados pelo GM seriam eliminados exemplo de empower "zealot PvP/PvE" de destroyer, em relaçao a mark of god, n digo nada ela é 100% nerf de necromancer e de archer mas dar reset na marke foda
deixem suas opinioes ae :)

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staff
I have 1 sugestion to make, with the C5, all skill modified and added by the GMs as nerfs, to empower of chars is eliminated and either everything as it had to be (enchant skill would come back to be books case skill magic was 1 empower added by GM)
summarizing and concluding nerfs and empowers given by GM they would be eliminated example of empower “zealot PvP/PvE” of destroyer, in relacion to mark of god, I say nothing it is 100% nerf of necromancer and archer but giving reset in marke is fuck
leave ur opinoes :)

PS: it was translatet in google too lazy to translate on my own :D

I have a mark of god = still dont see a HUGE difference, when you have 3-4 arrows or 3-4 nukes comming your way they all hurt.

I don't like PvP/PvE zealot all you see now are Destroyers use Frenzy and pull out a bow hit an archer, for 11K. With full donation gear and ect ect they have 11K-13K about. They one shot them. Now you have Destroyers on spawn in run out and frenzy people and die. IMO its a cheap win. They can't beat us one on one so they have to use this to win, Gratz. In retail they can only use frenzy with 2 handed sword for that reason alone. Maybe they have the right idea making it useable with 2 handed swords only?

What's your idea? just seeing if i have the same experences as others do, with these Frenzy Kamikazes.

Endrance
08-23-2007, 08:36 AM
I have a mark of god = still dont see a HUGE difference, when you have 3-4 arrows or 3-4 nukes comming your way they all hurt.

I don't like PvP/PvE zealot all you see now are Destroyers use Frenzy and pull out a bow hit an archer, for 11K. With full donation gear and ect ect they have 11K-13K about. They one shot them. Now you have Destroyers on spawn in run out and frenzy people and die. IMO its a cheap win. They can't beat us one on one so they have to use this to win, Gratz. In retail they can only use frenzy with 2 handed sword for that reason alone. Maybe they have the right idea making it useable with 2 handed swords only?

What's your idea? just seeing if i have the same experences as others do, with these Frenzy Kamikazes.

i got a another account destroyer normal zealot debuff with frenzy but its the way it is don't change it let it be like it is the way it is or if u give something to a class give a little something to all class but some mages allready got some skill that increases p.def :(

Veritas
08-23-2007, 08:38 AM
i got a another account destroyer normal zealot debuff with frenzy but its the way it is don't change it let it be like it is the way it is or if u give something to a class give a little something to all class but some mages allready got some skill that increases p.def :(

Yes i have heard of classes having toggle P-def that don't have this on retail. Is this true?

Endrance
08-23-2007, 08:40 AM
Yes i have heard of classes having toggle P-def that don't have this on retail. Is this true?

i cant answer that :( i just got these classes in detail
hellknight
duelist
soultaker
destroyer
nothing more but i've talkend to a few friend that they say (correct me if i'm wrong) the one that getter the "extre skill for p.def" is the sorceror i think :confused:

Veritas
08-23-2007, 08:46 AM
i cant answer that :( i just got these classes in detail
hellknight
duelist
soultaker
destroyer
nothing more but i've talkend to a few friend that they say (correct me if i'm wrong) the one that getter the "extre skill for p.def" is the sorceror i think :confused:

would explain why i have been facing more and more sorcerers and sps.

Endrance
08-23-2007, 08:52 AM
would explain why i have been facing more and more sorcerers and sps.

maybe yes maybe not
but i've heard a lot that mages got a special extre p.def skill, i don't agree with that if the class don't have much p.def use buff for that find the balanced buff :( so if the summoner got less time in the summons the GM will put is summmon for 2 hours e let the other classes summons for 20 mins or whatever :(

Veritas
08-23-2007, 08:59 AM
maybe yes maybe not
but i've heard a lot that mages got a special extre p.def skill, i don't agree with that if the class don't have much p.def use buff for that find the balanced buff :( so if the summoner got less time in the summons the GM will put is summmon for 2 hours e let the other classes summons for 20 mins or whatever :(

I think the question we need to answer first is, Is there such a skill that increases pdef? if so why? this is not how it should be. I think there is a bug then. A skill is registered for the wrong class then. Can anyone confirm this? I don't play Mystics LOL.
PR / Glad all the way.

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:18 AM
I think the question we need to answer first is, Is there such a skill that increases pdef? if so why? this is not how it should be. I think there is a bug then. A skill is registered for the wrong class then. Can anyone confirm this? I don't play Mystics LOL.
PR / Glad all the way.

i only got necro has mystic and it dont got any extra skill =/
HEY GUYS HELP HERE!!!!
sometimes yeilng works xD

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:21 AM
i saw you yesterday in IT
in the big 3rd job mobs area u were red name xD and some guy of my ally started killing xrecuitax that was hidden behind u guys and u guys killend him xD i allmost died laughing :D

Veritas
08-23-2007, 09:23 AM
i only got necro has mystic and it dont got any extra skill =/
HEY GUYS HELP HERE!!!!
sometimes yeilng works xD

/reroll a sorcerer :P go go Sephiroth !!!! haha i know one ill ask tonight

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:24 AM
/reroll a sorcerer :P go go Sephiroth !!!! haha i know one ill ask tonight

^^
i was on my necro xD the one that u pked was xmalonex i think :)

Veritas
08-23-2007, 09:28 AM
^^
i was on my necro xD the one that u pked was xmalonex i think :)

what clan r u in? and alliance? is that your mains name? Sephiroth?

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:32 AM
what clan r u in? and alliance? is that your mains name? Sephiroth?

i'm in TNT ally and in white power clan
yes xSephirothx is my name
my main class is
hellknight then Duelist and now going for Soultaker
xD

Veritas
08-23-2007, 09:36 AM
i'm in TNT ally and in white power clan
yes xSephirothx is my name
my main class is
hellknight then Duelist and now going for Soultaker
xD

Hehe I kill XMS when I see them. I probably killed XMS. >< I usually don't kill TNT USUALLY :P

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:39 AM
Hehe I kill XMS when I see them. I probably killed XMS. >< I usually don't kill TNT USUALLY :P

xD u killed malone hes a TNT because he was attackin a nood kid that was hidden behind u veritas xD he was soooooooo noob that he attacked malone when he getted behind u :D

Veritas
08-23-2007, 09:41 AM
xD u killed malone hes a TNT because he was attackin a nood kid that was hidden behind u veritas xD he was soooooooo noob that he attacked malone when he getted behind u :D

LOL >< free PVP point :cool:

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:42 AM
LOL >< free PVP point :cool:

xD
i told him not to attack he didn't listen xD

Veritas
08-23-2007, 09:51 AM
xD
i told him not to attack he didn't listen xD

Well I'll try to hold back from killing xSphirothx if i see him flagged >< I still know some people in TNT some are ok some are not, not always the smartest pvpers

Endrance
08-23-2007, 09:56 AM
Well I'll try to hold back from killing xSphirothx if i see him flagged >< I still know some people in TNT some are ok some are not, not always the smartest pvpers

dont worry i flag... yet xD i got only about 7 pvp xD i'm warming xD

Veritas
08-23-2007, 10:00 AM
dont worry i flag... yet xD i got only about 7 pvp xD i'm warming xD

hehe, noted

But yeah back to the question I've seen alot of XMS sorcerers now..... might be the pdef toggle

Endrance
08-23-2007, 10:02 AM
hehe, noted

But yeah back to the question I've seen alot of XMS sorcerers now..... might be the pdef toggle

that true most of the XMS i've seen are sorceror and mystic muse maybe both have that extre skill

Veritas
08-23-2007, 10:04 AM
that true most of the XMS i've seen are sorceror and mystic muse maybe both have that extre skill

Hehe go figure XMS found a Bug and they are using it >< I'm Shocked :eek:

Endrance
08-23-2007, 10:06 AM
Hehe go figure XMS found a Bug and they are using it >< I'm Shocked :eek:

lol
XMS allways looking for a hole to get advantage :D only that way they can do something :D they can be even weaker xD

CaoNiMa
08-24-2007, 03:15 AM
Yes i have heard of classes having toggle P-def that don't have this on retail. Is this true?

Yes it's true, ,you were in vent with me when I mentioned that my Archmage had it.

Endrance
08-24-2007, 05:36 AM
Yes it's true, ,you were in vent with me when I mentioned that my Archmage had it.

its an unfair skill if mages think they have lower p.def get other p.def buffs, or, give fighter some m.def skill so it can be "more" balanced (the big unbalecement was EXTRA P.DEF SKILL)

PS: unbalecement ---> i don't even think it exist my english is not the best :(