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nietsfloW
01-30-2008, 08:25 PM
Could some kind of BSOE penalty be applied? I suggest a bsoe takes of 10 pvp points. 10 pvp points means nothing when you'r in a situation where u have to bsoe, but this would get rid of all those faggots that bsoe in pvp.

Btw, feel free to post other suggestions. Perhaps it could be a good idea to combine bsoe with experience loss (same as dying, 4% or more!)

Example noobs:
http://i32.tinypic.com/2eb5q36.png
(bsoe got cancelled? ^^)

http://i25.tinypic.com/ao3kah.png
(obvious....)

http://i32.tinypic.com/zyiu4w.png
(better look close, he's nearly gone! :D)

S4mUraY
01-30-2008, 09:37 PM
lol always back kills me make a party, and always taking SS ahuihau


but when is 1x1 u run.. run and run..

when was 1x1 in wall of argos u down easy lol


your SS doesnt show the kamahl nb hiting me

gyuszeetwo
01-30-2008, 09:39 PM
haha Back what u think if they do that can someone have negative pvp score?
lol
and i have a nice ss about my char having -3 pk score lol (i am lazy to post it:P but if u want i can :P)

PS.: when will be death penalty applied here? :P lol

nietsfloW
01-30-2008, 09:42 PM
lol always back kills me make a party, and always taking SS ahuihau


but when is 1x1 u run.. run and run..

when was 1x1 in wall of argos u down easy lol


your SS doesnt show the kamahl nb hiting me

My bad, i am such a noob. Here i provide the full screenshot with the 20 people in my party also hitting u :rolleyes:

http://i29.tinypic.com/16h94qs.png

nietsfloW
01-30-2008, 09:44 PM
haha Back what u think if they do that can someone have negative pvp score?
lol
and i have a nice ss about my char having -3 pk score lol (i am lazy to post it:P but if u want i can :P)

PS.: when will be death penalty applied here? :P lol

Nah i just mean pvp.... if people want to bsoe with karma i don't care. That's basicly the whole point of those scrolls anyway.

neoHaT
01-30-2008, 09:48 PM
//agree

Back good idea =*
Realy need penalty...
ORRR... (My suggestion) just use Bsoe just with KARMA.
And dont was drop itens from mob
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

nietsfloW
01-30-2008, 09:58 PM
//agree

Back good idea =*
Realy need penalty...
ORRR... (My suggestiob) just use Bsoe with with KARMA.
And dont was drop itens from mob
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yea, that system would be perfect.

gyuszeetwo
01-30-2008, 10:19 PM
well the pk score i just mentioned as i think none had on this server negative pk score just me lol :P
btw i agree with NeoHat
make bsoes useable only if u have karma...or make a penalty like ur attack capability greatly decrease if u use it without karma like -90% p and matack/spd/p and mdef/evasion/critical.... etc for over 2 hours so they can use it if realy need it lol

Aryador
01-31-2008, 01:19 AM
Really good idea, lose 5 - 10 pvp points and 4 - 8 % exp when they bsoe in pvp.

Veritas
01-31-2008, 05:36 AM
Really good idea, lose 5 - 10 pvp points and 4 - 8 % exp when they bsoe in pvp.

Haha, man this server is laggy as hell, just think if they added this? They had to take away the no drops to mobs. Everything we suggest is pointless until they make the server more stable. I really think they have bigger problems than Bsoe.

Veritas
01-31-2008, 05:38 AM
haha Back what u think if they do that can someone have negative pvp score?
lol
and i have a nice ss about my char having -3 pk score lol (i am lazy to post it:P but if u want i can :P)

PS.: when will be death penalty applied here? :P lol

O.o HACKER !!! I ALWAYS KNEW IT

betrayed
01-31-2008, 07:03 AM
i'm 100% agree with neohat.
i think bsoe could only be used when u get karma, not anytime as the plaer wants....
the pointo to use bsoe was only to don't die with karma and drop itens.
with karma 0 he couldn't be used .... would be PERFECT this way !!!

gyuszeetwo
01-31-2008, 08:14 AM
O.o HACKER !!! I ALWAYS KNEW IT

hehe :P yeah lol but to hack l2cr is a hobby for me lol i usually hack into the Pentagon and into the mossad's main data center lol:cool:

antonius
01-31-2008, 08:17 AM
Haha, man this server is laggy as hell, just think if they added this? They had to take away the no drops to mobs. Everything we suggest is pointless until they make the server more stable. I really think they have bigger problems than Bsoe.

Veritas thats very strange, here i dont few any lag and im in Brazil and you live in USA, try to give a tarcert to the server and lets see if the lag is coming from the server connect.
Please past the tracert in my pm and we will find out where the lag is coming from :)

About the Bsoe i think we should wipe it from the server and change the way the clan hall is giving it, something like 1 per day... dont know, make it hard to get would be great.

Veritas
01-31-2008, 09:04 AM
Veritas thats very strange, here i dont few any lag and im in Brazil and you live in USA, try to give a tarcert to the server and lets see if the lag is coming from the server connect.
Please past the tracert in my pm and we will find out where the lag is coming from

hehe I'm not trying to be an Ass, many people say this. Yesterday I lagged out 4-5 times :P does anyone else lagg out? It really sucks in pvp, I jump from one side to another...... or people move from one side of the screen to another. I do not believe its just me Antonius ;)

Diniz
01-31-2008, 09:17 AM
About the Bsoe i think we should wipe it from the server and change the way the clan hall is giving it, something like 1 per day... dont know, make it hard to get would be great.

The BSOE is smt of the game and players have the right to use it as they want...
And there are 3 BSOEs an hour for a clan of 40 members... Too much? I don't think so.
And Wiping it is just smt nonsense! It can turn out to be a great new "trading relic" (let's say this way) as the moonstones/lunargents/etc... ^^

Lord

nietsfloW
01-31-2008, 09:28 AM
About the Bsoe i think we should wipe it from the server and change the way the clan hall is giving it, something like 1 per day... dont know, make it hard to get would be great.

What about our suggestions? Are they even possible, or can they be looked into?

I'm getting time outs on my tracerts past this hub:

13 144 ms 143 ms 140 ms po53.fcr02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.166]

Veritas
01-31-2008, 09:28 AM
On another subject,

Does anyone have a program similar to Fraps? Fraps seems to kill my monitor now lol

Aryador
01-31-2008, 09:34 AM
of course u would support the bsoe, we can start a new ranking of the top 50 ppl that use bsoe the most often, we'll see all PE and Iluminatis ppl filling the entire top 50 spots

nietsfloW
01-31-2008, 09:37 AM
the server would probably crash due to all the ppl going over the 2.1 billion integer limit...

veritas: try this http://www.planetgamecam.com/?locid=download

Endrance
01-31-2008, 10:43 AM
i do not agree with the Karma Bsoe because i never get karma or even if i get i don't drop because i just got 0 PK points... but about the exp loss and pvp/pk loss too...
cause the drop mob is still on sooo its necessary bsoe for some times :)
or just leave it that way

Veritas
01-31-2008, 10:59 AM
Antonius, not to be rude, but us as players play the game more than you I believe >< I think i know when I laggout :P

Trust me if i run into a PE zerg i try to run out as quickly as possible not stand there and have a cup of tea and die.

Hehe BS port in still Crits out every other time, I lag out BAD outside the temple of Aden right by my clan hall, I've critted out many times around IT and Shrine. >< I will soon have video to back my arguments up

btw
Thanks for the link back.

YUI
01-31-2008, 12:56 PM
the only players that have no lag are the ones playing at brazil.... every other players from other countries i have spoken to HAVE LAG.... this includes North America/Canada, Europe and Asia....

nietsfloW
01-31-2008, 01:07 PM
Hmm, the server's located in europe i think... but yea, the lag could have multiple reasons.

Anyways, BSOE penalty ftw!!! I've seen at least 20 ppl bsoe again today in pvp....

edit: nvm, server's in the usa.

joe9003
01-31-2008, 01:22 PM
My ping went to 3k yesterday yer 3k i could not conect , so i deleted my system folder and run updater now my ping is 134 , try it see if it helps.

TripleKill
01-31-2008, 01:48 PM
My ping went to 3k yesterday yer 3k i could not conect , so i deleted my system folder and run updater now my ping is 134 , try it see if it helps.

My went to 3k too and i logout.When i logiun my ping went to 525.
i dont now what is this but im play im br and i have lag too sometimes

DELEU
01-31-2008, 01:58 PM
the only players that have no lag are the ones playing at brazil.... every other players from other countries i have spoken to HAVE LAG.... this includes North America/Canada, Europe and Asia....

Not true Mr. Slips. xP

I'm from Brazil and I got HUGE lags at the evenning, from 1pm to 11pm is almost impossible for I play... I can play "freely" just after 0am. LoL

And I'm pretty sure thats not just me who got this issue.

And about what Antonius said, take off BSOE from server?? Thats pointless, ppl go red and would they do? lol... Making it just for ppl with karma to use would be great.

Cheers.

Veritas
01-31-2008, 03:50 PM
Anyways, BSOE penalty ftw!!! I've seen at least 20 ppl bsoe again today in pvp....


You know what is AWESOME?
Touch of Death then Bsoe at IT

I saw i believe the hero SK? Maybe he is in PE use Touch of Death 8-9 times and Bsoe

I was so tired and needed to rebuff I asked him to debuff me and Bsoe but he didn't .... Sad

Its almost as bad as Tanks running out at IT using hate aura alone and UD's and dies..... Once C99 comes out where Hate Aura Does Damage those Guys will ROCK. I believe players can be healed to death too in that Chronicle. :cool:

nietsfloW
01-31-2008, 04:13 PM
You know what is AWESOME?
Touch of Death then Bsoe at IT

I saw i believe the hero SK? Maybe he is in PE use Touch of Death 8-9 times and Bsoe

I was so tired and needed to rebuff I asked him to debuff me and Bsoe but he didn't .... Sad

Its almost as bad as Tanks running out at IT using hate aura alone and UD's and dies..... Once C99 comes out where Hate Aura Does Damage those Guys will ROCK. I believe players can be healed to death too in that Chronicle. :cool:

the hero SK is mine, and i haven't played it yet... so it was probably the hell knight hero :p

Veritas
01-31-2008, 04:15 PM
the hero SK is mine, and i haven't played it yet... so it was probably the hell knight hero :p

They all look the same :o