View Full Version : Full Attribute System Coming
antonius
11-19-2009, 08:46 PM
On next updates we will have the Attribute System working 100% like retail.
For more informations you can check here:
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/elemental_attribute_system.html
Also we are working on the Automated TvT Event, it will be 24 event and soon we will have it done.
These updates will take a little time.
Please be patient.
Regards,
Team L2CR
anthine
11-19-2009, 09:19 PM
good to hear it, can't wait for these new updates ^^
Laradnaat
11-20-2009, 04:49 AM
On next updates we will have the Attribute System working 100% like retail.
For more informations you can check here:
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/elemental_attribute_system.html
Also we are working on the Automated TvT Event, it will be 24 event and soon we will have it done.
These updates will take a little time.
Please be patient.
Regards,
Team L2CR
What I could read from portuguese forum, this system is enabled today. Is it true?
antonius
11-20-2009, 06:41 AM
What I could read from portuguese forum, this system is enabled today. Is it true?
not yet, we still working on it, on Next update it will be available.
Skwisgaar
11-20-2009, 06:42 AM
this will unbalance things even more :S ...
antonius
11-20-2009, 06:47 AM
this will unbalance things even more :S ...
Yes it will for players that dont know how to play / buff, but for players that use their brain it will not.
Even now its not unballanced if you use your brain.
Also we will run tests and fix if it gets unballanced.
Skwisgaar
11-20-2009, 11:26 AM
um?
players are crying how they dont reach spellhowlers or other mages before they die...
what if mage has full wind atributes (150 or 300 depends how u implement it)?that means 100% more pure damage if the other has no resistance for the same atribute...
so the fight with spellhowlers will would be the same as now if you have full wind resistance attributed armors?
and noone will have his whole armor set with only 1 element...since there is plenty of all mages here...
so basicly any melee will drop before they reach the caster even faster then now...
i've seen this getting implemented later(so it didnt get synchonised with other things)
on other server...i remember my last fight there
3,2,1 go
You use shield of faith.
Shield of faith effect can be felt.(5 k m def?)
xxx hit you for ~5000 dmg,xxx hit you for ~2000,xxx hit you for ~5000
(i had half of armor with wind resistance)
tell me how to use brain in those situations ? xD buff is same like till now...even worse since fighters will have elements too,so MOAR buffs isnt it?and if you have resistance for example for water,you are weaker against fire so a sorcerer comes...BYE so you should make it balanced,and if you make it balanced the overall damages are much higher,almost double...no brains and knowing how to play involved here ;)
Endrance
11-20-2009, 01:06 PM
um?
players are crying how they dont reach spellhowlers or other mages before they die...
what if mage has full wind atributes (150 or 300 depends how u implement it)?that means 100% more pure damage if the other has no resistance for the same atribute...
so the fight with spellhowlers will would be the same as now if you have full wind resistance attributed armors?
and noone will have his whole armor set with only 1 element...since there is plenty of all mages here...
so basicly any melee will drop before they reach the caster even faster then now...
i've seen this getting implemented later(so it didnt get synchonised with other things)
on other server...i remember my last fight there
3,2,1 go
You use shield of faith.
Shield of faith effect can be felt.(5 k m def?)
xxx hit you for ~5000 dmg,xxx hit you for ~2000,xxx hit you for ~5000
(i had half of armor with wind resistance)
tell me how to use brain in those situations ? xD buff is same like till now...even worse since fighters will have elements too,so MOAR buffs isnt it?and if you have resistance for example for water,you are weaker against fire so a sorcerer comes...BYE so you should make it balanced,and if you make it balanced the overall damages are much higher,almost double...no brains and knowing how to play involved here ;)
You can only increase the weapon damage elemental atribue to lvl 3, but you can increase armor elemental defense to lvl 6
Not to mention that you only have 1 weapons, but at least 4 pieces of armor + 5 jewel, and each can be added and elemental atribute
Skwisgaar
11-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Attack Attribute
With the damage variance in mind the test results define the following attribute breakpoints, when an increased damage output is saturated:
Attribute Value Effect to Damage
0 ~ 80 Damage slightly increases while the value increases
80 1st breakpioint, ~1.4 times damage
150 2nd breakpoint, ~1.7 times damage
290 3rd breakpoint, ~1.8 times damage
300 4th breakpoint, ~2.0 times damge
Defence Attribute
Testing the effect of increased attribute values on armos brought up the following results:
Attribute Value Effect to Damage
108 Damage is reduced by ~30%
168 Damage is reduced by ~65%
288 Damage is reduced by ~71%
408 Damage is reduced by ~87%
668 Damage is reduced by ~86%
as you see even if you reach 408 on armors...(which wont happen) the damage is still almost doubled.jewels with elements?:rolleyes:
Endrance
11-20-2009, 03:03 PM
in the end a fully wind resist vs a fully wind offensive, you'll take less damage then before.
If you like, take some SS of the damage, and later when the atribute system is online you can check it.
4 pieces of armor to lvl 6 + 5 jewel to lvl6 against 1 weapon to lvl 3
The "problem" is that NO ONE will be fully 1 atribute.
If you go fo full wind defense, Soultaker will kill ya, if you go 50% wind/dark even a Archmage and Mystic Muse will kick your ass with a lvl 3 Fire/Water weapon
Skwisgaar
11-20-2009, 03:11 PM
there is only armor,no jewels,no accesories,no shield...so basicly its 4-5,depends on set...
exactly what u said last...there are always few classes that will blow you off the arena...
we should delay this discussion for 'after its implemented' :P
skills-element enchants will work also?
Laradnaat
11-21-2009, 02:28 PM
U cant add attributes to jewels and shield. Attributes only can be added to armor/weapon. U can add only one type attribute per armor/weapon. Only combination is possible on few pieces armors where you can add different attributes to different pieces of armor.
Thing is that I dont care at all because mages are overpowered. I just wish that few more things will be implemented like Accesorry Life Stone.
Also adding attributes to the game at this point isnt very good, because we dont have working Hellbound yet.
Thing that I have noticed is that drop rate and drops on Island of Prayer should be checked.
Also we do not have cloaks and B or A grade bracelets yet.
JonasIT
11-21-2009, 02:31 PM
U cant add attributes to jewels and shield. Attributes only can be added to armor/weapon. U can add only one type attribute per armor/weapon. Only combination is possible on few pieces armors where you can add different attributes to different pieces of armor.
Thing is that I dont care at all because mages are overpowered. I just wish that few more things will be implemented like Accesorry Life Stone.
Also adding attributes to the game at this point isnt very good, because we dont have working Hellbound yet.
Thing that I have noticed is that drop rate and drops on Island of Prayer should be checked.
Also we do not have cloaks and B or A grade bracelets yet.
Take easy, things will work with time, Island of Prayer its working already and also Hellbound Isle its almost done as we can notice.
Also you can only use Attributes for Physical skills so mages cant use it on their weapons, you guys should read it better before say things.
Skwisgaar
11-21-2009, 03:57 PM
um,your wrong nukes also have elements...where did u read that mages dont use elements?
JonasIT
11-23-2009, 06:23 AM
um,your wrong nukes also have elements...where did u read that mages dont use elements?
The Elements for weapons only work for physical attacks, mages dont have physical attacks on their skills.
Blessing of Fire - Bestows fire attack attribute while engaged in a physical attack.
...
Skwisgaar
11-23-2009, 09:35 AM
you are wrong...
magic skills can have elements too...and with same element on weapon they get stronger...
Donator
11-24-2009, 10:34 AM
When it will be avaible? Anyone knows?
bZbit
11-24-2009, 02:50 PM
amazing to see how the admin calls 70 % of the server complete retards and they don't get it!LMFAO!
guess it does prove his point :D
ddamm
11-24-2009, 03:18 PM
As far as i saw ... GM only pointed out that ppl that "use brain" will have no problem ... didnt saw any indications of undermining players...
On the other hand ... mages have attribute on attack ... Wind, Water,Fire, Dark, Light ...
I dont claim to know how it will be on this server ... but on one server i was trying to test elements with cardinal...
With weapon that have augment solar spark (that have light elemental attack) i hit NPC for about 1000 dmg.
With full light attribute i hit something like 1700 if i remember correctly....
If i use holy weapon i hit arround 2.500 ...
I dont know if that was correctly impelemented element system or not ... but i realy think it may unbalance the server a lot....
You all seam to forget fighter that also have elements on skills and can also increase damage...
I also dont see what is the point of implementing elemental attributes if ppl will be able to put every attribute on every piece of armor and jewels since then will just have attribute defence on all elements...
What will be max elemental atribut for weapon and armor?
LvL 4 weapon have 150 and lvl 4 armor have 60 .... what will be here ?
bZbit
11-24-2009, 03:25 PM
racionalize mengz, if he claims only a few of'em uses their brain hes OBVIOUSLY claiming that the others don't... do the maths <.<
antonius
11-24-2009, 03:33 PM
racionalize mengz, if he claims only a few of'em uses their brain hes OBVIOUSLY claiming that the others don't... do the maths <.<
Its funny to see you saying words i didnt say, if you feel inside the players that dont use the brain im sorry, i didnt mean to say it :).
The game its available for everyone, if you dont have a good tactic to play ofcourse you will not be a good player.
ddamm
11-24-2009, 03:42 PM
racionalize mengz, if he claims only a few of'em uses their brain hes OBVIOUSLY claiming that the others don't... do the maths <.<
Where he could be right ... some ppl just dont want to think at all ...
Howerver not using the brain god gave you (being lazy to even think about something and try to understand it) and being retard (not baing able to think or understnad since there is some mental problem) are totaly diferent things in my book...
Not that i defend the GM mind you ... maybe he should say things diferently :)
bZbit
11-24-2009, 03:43 PM
way to fail, i made over 2k pvps in about 2/3 months and not only did i got called "bugged" "cheater" or just some random WH failiures saying i use quick healing pots? i can check the topics and post'em here... ^^ some1 even made a topic on orkut about me, leo and minh (use&nate :D)
not even mentioning all the heros i still make for my friends that ask me to play when they can't on og, sometimes on classes i never even played (this sunday's case)
i was the best at my class till i drop out so don't BS me about knowing the game ^^
and yeah ofc u didn't said the exact words it's called deduction...
xlxdarknessxlx
11-24-2009, 03:44 PM
Its funny to see you saying words i didnt say, if you feel inside the players that dont use the brain im sorry, i didnt mean to say it :).
The game its available for everyone, if you dont have a good tactic to play ofcourse you will not be a good player.
I simply love that Words :D :D :D :D
bZbit
11-24-2009, 03:44 PM
Where he could be right ... some ppl just dont want to think at all ...
Howerver not using the brain god gave you (being lazy to even think about something and try to understand it) and being retard (not baing able to think or understnad since there is some mental problem) are totaly diferent things in my book...
Not that i defend the GM mind you ... maybe he should say things diferently :)
u got me all wrong, i didn't said i desagree (wich actualy i completly don't, i do agree, 90 % of the current players are complete jokes :D
just though funny no1 even argued xD
xlxdarknessxlx
11-24-2009, 03:46 PM
way to fail, i made over 2k pvps in about 2/3 months and not only did i got called "bugged" "cheater" or just some random WH failiures saying i use quick healing pots? i can check the topics and post'em here... ^^ some1 even made a topic on orkut about me, leo and minh (use&nate :D)
not even mentioning all the heros i still make for my friends that ask me to play when they can't on og, sometimes on classes i never even played (this sunday's case)
i was the best at my class till i drop out so don't BS me about knowing the game ^^
and yeah ofc u didn't said the exact words it's called deduction...
The best dont play now?
Soo its no more the best, sorry Bz, others try take your post, if you dont play you cant be the best in your class because what we know its that you dont play more soo...
Sorry :(
bZbit
11-24-2009, 03:50 PM
it's called PAST TENSE
was= past
oh soz, you did not passed 6th grade yet my bad, u'll learn it in a couple of years tho :p
edit: ps: good4u i left cuz no1 wud've took my place otherweise :) o wait... they tried.. yeah... i remember smthin that wud descibe those attemps...
EPIC FAILIURES :D
xlxdarknessxlx
11-24-2009, 04:08 PM
it's called PAST TENSE
was= past
oh soz, you did not passed 6th grade yet my bad, u'll learn it in a couple of years tho :p
edit: ps: good4u i left cuz no1 wud've took my place otherweise :) o wait... they tried.. yeah... i remember smthin that wud descibe those attemps...
EPIC FAILIURES :D
I only refeare that you think that you are the best and still the best but i dont think soo...
Irenicus make a good storm screamer, the char is like you, when said the name all talk and know the good that it is but now its off or dont use the account soo cant continue the good one....
6th grade? are you talking in you? Only can bee...I'm in the 12th, sorry, i dont use too mutch english, i speak more, if i make some gramatical error, my bad :)
bZbit
11-24-2009, 04:11 PM
rly? i was about to swear that you were licensed in advanced english... oh well my bad i guess...
and you'r basicly repeating everything i said in a "dumber" way lmao, i said i was.... i'd still be if i hadn't drop tho
ddamm
11-30-2009, 06:02 AM
If you talk like that, then the only ppl that will stay on server will be players that donated for +8 or +10 items becasue it will be impossible for players with CR items +3 or +4 to play and to hope to kill some stronger player.
And what about ppl that dont have money for donations and are forced to play with normal S or with unique S and with S jewels most of the time...
I already see it on the server ... new players just dont stand a chance against players in CR armor and with CR jewels...
I think its not good thinking... but thats me....
Donator
12-28-2009, 10:30 AM
On next updates we will have the Attribute System working 100% like retail.
For more informations you can check here:
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/elemental_attribute_system.html
Also we are working on the Automated TvT Event, it will be 24 event and soon we will have it done.
These updates will take a little time.
Please be patient.
Regards,
Team L2CR
o YE! When? Next year? 2011?
anthine
12-28-2009, 03:35 PM
o YE! When? Next year? 2011?
implosion, manao....whatever your name...
antonius has stated that these updates will take time to be implemented on to the server...and endrance and others have all told you nicely...to wait....
but im tired...so...
...SIT YOUR BUTT IN YOUR CHAIR OR LAY ON YOUR BED, DO WHATEVER AND WAIT LIKE A GOOD LITTLE BOY OR GIRL!!!!!!
THESE THINGS TAKE TIME, AND AS YOU ALSO KNOW ITS THE HOLIDAYS AND EVERYONE IS RATHER BUSY SO SIT DOWN AND WAIT!!!!
MrCedx
12-28-2009, 03:41 PM
Good one :)
Donator
12-28-2009, 03:43 PM
Pfft;
I hate when someone promise and dont keep his words.
That I mean :]
anthine
12-28-2009, 03:46 PM
On next updates we will have the Attribute System working 100% like retail.
For more informations you can check here:
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/elemental_attribute_system.html
Also we are working on the Automated TvT Event, it will be 24 event and soon we will have it done.
These updates will take a little time.
Please be patient.
Regards,
Team L2CR
HE said they will be in the next update's but did he every say when we where going to get those update's? no he did not so all we can do is wait...and its the holidays so we all will be busy some of us do have a real life, we cant be on and do things 24/7 as im sure you know so...any more questions?
Donator
12-28-2009, 03:48 PM
HE said they will be in the next update's but did he every say when we where going to get those update's? no he did not so all we can do is wait...and its the holidays so we all will be busy some of us do have a real life, we cant be on and do things 24/7 as im sure you know so...any more questions?
Endrance in ONe post said,; 15--10 days :] thats all
anthine
12-28-2009, 03:51 PM
yes, but you also forgot, to take in effect the holidays. :) which can F*** everything up :)
now, all you and i can do is wait. :)
Donator
12-28-2009, 04:00 PM
yes, but you also forgot, to take in effect the holidays. :) which can F*** everything up :)
now, all you and i can do is wait. :)
That we can also, before we was tlaking about, so :]
You didnt proved anything new <-
anthine
12-28-2009, 04:20 PM
actually, i did.
i proved that those updates will take time and that the holiday's extended that time that those updates where to be implemented.
and that you....have absolutely no Patience, to wait for those updates.
the best i can say is that they will most likely be in place some time after the new year.
Donator
12-28-2009, 04:50 PM
actually, i did.
i proved that those updates will take time and that the holiday's extended that time that those updates where to be implemented.
and that you....have absolutely no Patience, to wait for those updates.
the best i can say is that they will most likely be in place some time after the new year.
Did that holiday was Random? I tought all know when we have Christmas, or just sAtff didnt ? O.o :]
Laradnaat
12-28-2009, 07:44 PM
Attribute system without working Hellbound Isle is meanless.
What will u do with few stones u have? Nothing.
Attribute system will be solved when Hellbound Isle start to work, and many things with that also.
But as for now, all we can do is wait.
Patience is a virtue, and being impatient will not change anything
anthine
12-28-2009, 07:48 PM
ive been saying that since...but he/she dont listen to anyone -.-
Donator
12-28-2009, 07:51 PM
because i hate when someone boke words what he promised
only that :]
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